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15 April 2017 @ 07:30 pm
My two cents  
I was going to ignore the increasing panic over the change on LiveJournal's ToS, I didn't really feel like dealing with it after I have witnessed the massive move outs to DreamWidth quite a few times over the years. I also do not really have the time or patience to worry about such stuff, however, a recent post made by a fellow maker at the pixel graphics communities made me change my mind and reflect in a more honest and social way on this matter.

I'm a huge supporter of LGBT+ rights, I might not post about it much (like I don't really post about many things) but in my real life, I have participated in movements, events and even made a research paper of my own on homosexuality. All of this was made with the ultimate goal of growing awareness and acceptance towards the LGBT+ community and the respect for their rights. And it turns out that now LJ is not a safe place to do NONE of those things. It's not only that I consider it unfair and such a shame for a site I really love: it offends me, it insults me and it disgusts me, like I believe (and hope) it does to many more users.

In case you don't know, "LJ changed its Terms of Service to obey Russian law, which requires "protecting" minors from discussing "sexual deviancy" - LGBT+ issues". What is this? 1952? When the first DSM listed homosexuality as a disorder? Time has passed since then, now we know that "...this unfortunate history demonstrates how marginalisation of a group of people who have a particular personality feature (in this case homosexuality) can lead to harmful medical practice and a basis for discrimination in society. There is now a large body of research evidence that indicates that being gay, lesbian or bisexual is compatible with normal mental health and social adjustment".

I could give you a lot more bibliography on this, oh my, I could give you all the bibliography! I have a freaking Psychology degree, I know my stuff, I have studied it, I have researched it, I have been taught by experts with years of experience in Psychology and Psychiatry, and I don't really need any of that to know that this, right here, guys, is bullshit. And even if we leave the heart of the matter aside: we should protect minors from discussing an actual thing that happens in the world, regardless of anyone's views on it? BULLSHIT, once again, and yes, with capitals.

Deep in my heart, I want to think the owners didn't have another option, so I won't be leaving LJ until it completely disappears, that's just my personal choice. However, I will stop considering getting paid features in the future, this means I won't be supporting the site financially anymore, and I also won't stop speaking my mind even if gets me to be kicked out.

There will never be a day when I don't defend human rights, and that will always include the LGBT+ community. You can't and WON'T tell me that I shouldn't talk about it.
Sandysandy_s on April 16th, 2017 03:17 am (UTC)
This! I agree with all. I already have a permanent account here and prefer LJ over DW by miles but I agree with all your points!
Paola: Love it!tsukisagi on April 16th, 2017 07:22 am (UTC)
Hey Sandy! I'm super happy to know that you agree with me :) especially because you really are an expert, being both a psychologist and a psychotherapist.

I also prefer LJ over DW so I won't be leaving the site either, it's such a shame that they continue coming up with things that make people want to leave, I'm afraid it might completely disappear one day :( There's no place like LJ, I have met wonderful friends (like you <3) who I'm always very glad to see when they come back. Thanks a lot for sticking up with LJ!
ann456ann456 on April 16th, 2017 07:20 am (UTC)
I Agree !!
Paola: Mulantsukisagi on April 16th, 2017 11:39 am (UTC)
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Paola: Mulantsukisagi on April 16th, 2017 11:38 am (UTC)
You can call me selfless, but these are my thoughts on the matter and how I'm acknowledging this problem, leaving the website personally affects me because I run a community and I have years of using the site. It's not only because I like it, it's because of the time (and money) I have invested in it. If I find a way to smartly get things done in the best way, I could say for sure that I'll be leaving LJ as soon as possible. In the time being, I'm doing what I consider right to my personal beliefs and values, and I don't really agree with the idea of being judged for it.
ғʟᴜᴛᴛᴇʀsʜʏ: Fluttershyfluttershy on April 16th, 2017 12:27 pm (UTC)
Who the hell are you? You need to crawl back to the sarcastic shithole which you crawled out from!
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Paola: Mulantsukisagi on April 16th, 2017 11:13 pm (UTC)
Look, I don't really understand why you're turning all of this in a personal attack. Looking at profiles won't resolve anything regarding the LGBT+ issue. As far as I know, you're also staying in this website, only that I don't know what are your thoughts on what I wrote above.

And you can think whatever you want about me and my friends, that doesn't mean you're right or that it matters to anyone. It sure doesn't help the LGBT+ community.
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Paola: Mulantsukisagi on April 16th, 2017 11:28 pm (UTC)
"What I think about you or your friend has nothing to do with the LGBT community."

That was my point exactly.
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Paola: Mulantsukisagi on April 17th, 2017 03:42 am (UTC)
I consider myself pro LGBT+ for my actions and words in real life, not for whatever impact my presence as a user in a blogging platform can have. I don't think I need to write everything again here, it's all there. But... are you sure we have been talking only about my choices? Calling me selfless and hollow are so far the only arguments you have made against what I wrote in my entry, that's a personal attack and a value judgement, not an actual discussion.

Is that some kind of... threat? A warning? Okay.... I'd think you should have deleted your account by now if you have such a strong desire of me leaving, too, to go this far. In any case, I do wish you all the best on supporting the LGBT+ community.
ғʟᴜᴛᴛᴇʀsʜʏ: Shayfluttershy on April 17th, 2017 02:25 am (UTC)
How fitting: sub-human ONTD filth attempting to spread their cancer on other people's opinions on social media. I treat people with the exact same courtesy that they demonstrate towards myself and my friends. You are a load that your mother clearly should have swallowed, and your existence is a perfect example of why abortion should continue be legal. The sooner that you are out of this world, the better off the planet will be.

Paola, I'll be blocking this poor excuse for human life, now, as I am far too busy and far too old for teenage drama. I suggest that you do the same. <3
ғʟᴜᴛᴛᴇʀsʜʏ: My Fiancéfluttershy on April 16th, 2017 12:34 pm (UTC)
*hugs tight*

I respect you so much for standing strong to your convictions. Boycotting LiveJournal will change nothing in the world, for better or for worse. I love everyone and at the end of the day, what matters is who you are and how you treat those around you, not whether you choose to use a service or not. I'm sure there are plenty of bigots that run platforms who havent voiced their opinions for fear of repercussions. You keep smiling and being kind to every human being, Paola! That is what is important.

Have a blessed Easter!
Paola: Mulantsukisagi on April 16th, 2017 11:20 pm (UTC)
Thank you so much for your words and for your support above! I didn't really mean to start a fight with anyone, I just wanted to defend my point of view and my reasons to stay in this site. I also believe boycotting LJ won't change anything, especially when I have stated already that I will stop paying for paid features and I will speak my mind regardless of the ToS's I critized in the post.

Still, I understand why would someone qualify my choices as selfless, I just don't agree with it. I'd like to keep things kind and respectful, especially here where the main discussion is about supporting the LGBT+ community, but I know it's not always possible.

I hope you have a very blessed Easter, too!
ғʟᴜᴛᴛᴇʀsʜʏ: Oh So Sweetfluttershy on April 17th, 2017 02:30 am (UTC)
I apologize for being as harsh and brash as I was, but I don't believe that it is right in any circumstance that someone should come and attack you for your beliefs and your right to do as you wish, and support any group of people that you wish to. I retaliated against LiveJournal's anti-gay rhetoric by reading slash fiction as well as privately posting it. Male/male was always my favourite romance trope, especially in high-fantasy settings. :) People are people and should be judged by their actions and words, not by something as simple as a sexual preference. And as stated above I will always treat people the way that they treat myself and my loved ones. I hope that you do not think any less of me, but some people need to be put in their place, such as the chickie up there. Mi mama siempre me dijo, "Si yo no te enseño respeto, te lo van a enseñar en la calle." That in itself is an example of such!

I love you!
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Robertfound_world on April 16th, 2017 04:22 pm (UTC)
Re: sexuality

This is reminding me of how many years ago on livejournal, someone I knew got born again into evangelism and when she touched on the subject of homosexuality, another evangelist said that doctors, psychologists and teachers all across the board all agreed that homosexuality was caused by childhood abuse. This was such astounding B.S. that I felt irritated and replied with some link on the subject. I don't think the other person was intentionally lying but probably just had spoken with other people from his mega-church about it. It still annoyed me.
Paola: Mulantsukisagi on April 17th, 2017 01:22 am (UTC)
Oh wow, that really was some astounding B.S.! I can't believe such false information can be spread around just like that. I'm so happy and thankful that you decided to speak up about it and shared a link, I hope it helped them realize how wrong they were.
Robertfound_world on April 17th, 2017 10:38 pm (UTC)
I'd like to believe it changed their minds, but I doubt it. Maybe by now they changed their minds from unrelated reasons.
Yuri: Anime Girl with Red Bowyueshi on April 19th, 2017 12:40 pm (UTC)
uh I didn't know that LJ did that...
but I wonder how it will actually affect things we right here... hmm...
Paola: Mulantsukisagi on April 23rd, 2017 11:39 pm (UTC)
I have heard they could delete your account if you don't follow the new ToS, but I'm not sure if it really is happening. I hope not :(
Yuri: Bastion: Kidyueshi on April 25th, 2017 01:56 pm (UTC)
Oh, really?
Hmm.. well they probably can at least keep you from using your LJ until you agree to them.
But I hardly pay much attention to these things...
Well, I probably should dot hat the next time.
littlemissnovel ♥littlemissnovel on April 24th, 2017 01:21 am (UTC)
I am still horrified that it took forever (until 1970s/DSM-III) to change and not consider homosexuality as a psychological disorder!

And bravo for speaking your mind on this! I am staying to just icon but not use my LJ as a diary and to discuss my thoughts about stuff, but I do have DW just in case my blog here gets deleted for violating the TOS for whatever reasons.
Paola: Mulantsukisagi on April 24th, 2017 08:09 am (UTC)
I know! It's such a shame that they took so long :/ And then there are still people who believe having a different sexual orientation is some kind of disease, it makes me so angry!

Aww thanks! I'm glad I wrote this post :) I also have an account over DW just in case, though I'm still more active on LJ. I saw that you added me, would you like me to add you back? Or maybe we could add each other on DW if you prefer, I might start crossposting my entries. Thanks for accepting the invite to my community once again, it's been nice to meet you!
Sambucainsaneandrabid on July 15th, 2017 09:43 am (UTC)
I have a good gay friend on here and idgaf what ppl say, I once got booted from LJ by the Russians but I just got back on. DW is ok but if I want an LJ so be it. No one can stop me.